{"id":1817,"date":"2021-04-01T11:21:30","date_gmt":"2021-04-01T11:21:30","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/courses.lumenlearning.com\/suny-jefferson-practicalfoundations\/?post_type=chapter&#038;p=1817"},"modified":"2021-04-01T11:21:30","modified_gmt":"2021-04-01T11:21:30","slug":"extra-credit-heres-why-some-educators-hate-it","status":"publish","type":"chapter","link":"https:\/\/courses.lumenlearning.com\/suny-jefferson-practicalfoundations\/chapter\/extra-credit-heres-why-some-educators-hate-it\/","title":{"raw":"Extra Credit: Here's Why Some Educators Hate It","rendered":"Extra Credit: Here&#8217;s Why Some Educators Hate It"},"content":{"raw":"We'll be getting into more sorts of practical issues with Esquith.\u00a0 I thought of extra credit as a good issue, though:\r\n\r\nSome people hate it.\u00a0 Others use it as a carrot.\u00a0 Many educators find it distracting, given that it overfocuses students on the incidental.\u00a0 Even others view it as praising students for what they ought 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